Scolding Dymphna

Rollory is the penname of a Franco-American man who comments in both counter-jihad and white nationalist sites.

Dymphna is the penname of one of the two administrators of the counter-jihad site Gates of Vienna (GoV).

Her husband, Baron Bodissey [Ned May], is the other admin.

Like Rollory, Queen is a regular visitor.

In my last post I also stole comments from another GoV thread in order to expose Takuan Seiyo’s haughtiness when a woman confronted him with the Jewish Question (JQ). The intelligence of that woman is the exception that confirms the rule. In general, women don’t carry under their shoulders mankind’s destiny.

The counter-jihad movement not only suffers from blindness at the midst of its vision. Some of its members are almost blind on collateral subjects too.

It is true that I like both Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders, and their blindness on the JQ and other subjects do not bother me so much. But intellectuals should be different. They are supposed to delve deeper into the causes of Western malaise than the politicians and the popularizers of the dangers of Islamization. That’s why white Gentiles like Fjordman [Note of 2012: actually he’s half-Jew], and also Baron Bodissey, the main administrator of Gates of Vienna, need to be exposed. (Blindness on the JQ among Jews like Takuan Seiyo and Larry Auster is just ethnocentric self-deception, not treason of one’s own ethnic group.)

Why am I criticizing the GoV-ers if we still were good friends at the beginning of the last year? Because I cannot stand dishonesty out of cowardice. If we, white nationalists, are so dead wrong about the JQ, the intellectuals of the counter-jihad sites could refute our views without much effort (cf. again my previous post on Takuan Seiyo). Instead, they conveniently avoid all substantial discussion with us out of intellectual cowardice. But why am I criticizing them if I myself wrote that we who defend the West should never attack each other? Because counter-jihadists are not defending the West as they claim they do. And the earlier those who visit their sites wake up, the better.

The following includes parts of three comments by Rollory, some sentences censored by Bodissey, in the longest thread at GoV to date, “Sex, Gender, and Civilization.” Although I don’t agree with Rollory’s sympathies for the likes of Roissy (Roissy’s “Game” debilitates the West), I believe that Rollory hit the nail about feminism and so-called “women’s rights”.

No ellipsis added between unquoted paragraphs:


Addressing Dymphna, Rollory said…

Wow, the things you find when you stay away from a thread for a week!

“…that women have done for the cause for years before people like ‘Rollory’ even knew what Islam was all about.”

Hey you contemptible little coward: if you have something to say to me, say it to me directly. Don’t run around being catty behind people’s backs—particularly if you want to counter the disdain that young men are increasingly experiencing for your type.

“I’ll continue to fight Islam on my own, but I part company with anyone who wants to take away my right to work, vote, or be an equal citizen in my country. [Chechar’s note: Those are not “rights.” It is feminism: a weapon of mass destruction used against the West.] I’ve read this blog for many years, but if this is the way it’s going to go, I’ll continue to go my own way.

Please do not go down this route. You will only alienate intelligent women like me who have given our hearts and souls to the counterjihad for years.”

Ok. Here’s the deal. You want things to work your way, make it happen.

What you are not allowed to do is to benefit and champion feminism and then complain that men aren’t responding to the resulting incentives the way you think they should—that is, they aren’t being sufficiently slavish to you. It doesn’t matter how this makes you feel. It does not work.

My claim is that fighting Islam, just like any other great project, will depend entirely and solely on the Western/European/white men deciding to actually do it, and that they will not decide to do so as long as the current female-empowered society remains in place. You can complain about this. You can throw tantrums. You can mount whisper campaigns behind people’s backs. You can take your ball and go home. None of that makes a goddamned bit of difference. The only thing that counts is success. If you can stop Islam your way, do it. If you are sure you are correct, you should not be afraid of me.

What I am advocating is: one family, one vote, with the patriarch as the executive. This is the traditional, historically sound system. It is the system that has been overthrown over the course of the last century. It is the system that was overthrown in the fading days of the Roman Empire, and in the weak years of the Caliphate before the Mongols, and in every society that is trending toward dissolution and collapse. These things are not random coincidences, nor are they evil conspiracies. They are facts of life and human nature. That they make you feel bad does not make them go away.

[Addressing Queen]: This is perfect example of female thinking at work. It is not about taking away your specific right to vote. It is about women in general. Women, in general, cannot generalize. You just proved that. Women in general like sexy over reliable, like security over liberty, like cute over competent. Women in general also think that one counterexample disproves statistics.

There are exceptions. The problem is that they are exceptions. Your arguments—all based on “me, me, me”—[are] complete validations of Vox Day’s rule about women’s most passionate arguments always based on how it makes them feel—are perfect examples of why women should not vote.

“The age of consent in Mexico and El Salvador is 12. Any mom with a daughter that age who’s walked her child in front of a phalanx of men of that ethnic group knows the score. Ditto the mothers of the 11 and 12 year olds being targeted by Muslim rape gangs in Britain. This is a women’s rights issue like no other. There is no way the multi-culti feminists can blunt this argument.”

Don’t you get it yet? Feminism is a subset of leftism. When it comes to a conflict between feminism and Islam, feminism gives way, every time.

If you were less inclined to screaming fits at the name “Roissy” this phenomenon might actually make sense to you. In any case, this battle is a losing one, it has been lost every time it has been attempted. But hey, don’t take my word for it, go prove me wrong: turn Islamization around based on feminist arguments.

Ok, having read the rest of this [thread], I see no reason to change what I have said.

Equal rights and equal suffrage is something that got invented a hundred years ago. The corresponding trends regarding growth in government and increasing dysfunction are clear. That they are directly causally related is not proven, but it would be foolish to claim there is no connection when we have thousands of years of history of doing it the other way, without the specific societal dysfunction.

I realize how hard this is for modern women to accept. In fact I don’t expect them to. I expect that they will try to preserve the system, will fail—due to the young men being absolutely unmotivated to contribute—and that building the one I advocate will be my children’s and grandchildren’s task. They will have the benefit of seeing the utter failure of the feminist system before them.

And if I am wrong, it costs nobody anything, because the feminists will have won already and we will all be living in a shiny futuro-technomage society of peace and rainbows.

Baron Bodissey said…

Rollory,

I’ve redacted the insults and profanity in your comment. If you do something like this again, I will delete the comment outright. I don’t have time to play censor.

Rollory said…

They were not insults. They were an accurate description of her behavior. It is contemptible. It is cowardly. And that is a big part of why everything she claims to be striving for will fail.

Besides, I wasn’t the one to start with the personal insults here; your wife was the one who chose to start publishing them. Rather hypocritical of you to complain about someone responding to them.


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My 2012 comment:

With rare exceptions, I don’t believe that women can help us in restoring our civilization, at least intellectually.

Published in: on March 29, 2011 at 9:23 pm  Comments (3)  

Scolding Takuan Seiyo

Freyja’s cats is the penname of a German-American woman. Takuan Seiyo is the penname of a half-Jew, half-Polish man. With an American passport and married to a Japanese, half-Jew “Seiyo” now lives in Japan.

The following is a sister article to the entry “Tanstaafl et al on Takuan Seiyo”: a collection of posts that I gathered a year ago.


Jew-blind counter-jihad

The counter-jihad movement is notoriously philo-Semitic. Ned May’s blogsite Gates of Vienna in general and Seiyo in particular have had the nasty little habit of shunning white nationalists when the latter confront the counter-jihadists with their dissociation about the Jewish Question. No frank discussion about the influence of Jews in our civilization is possible within the main sites that alert the western world against the concerted effort by Islamic jihadists.

If counter-jihadists fancy themselves as defenders of western civilization why do they often resort to shunning genuine nationalists? The straightforward answer is that, when the best minds in the counter-jihad movement dare to enter the arena, the nationalists thoroughly deconstruct their philo-Semitic views.

That’s what they fear.

For example, in addition to the article cited in the lead paragraph of this entry see how Takuan Seiyo has been debunked here, Fjordman here and Larry Auster here.

Seiyo’s extremely arrogant words when Freyja tried to discuss with him moved me to write this as the first article in the new incarnation of The West’s Darkest Hour. Addressing other Gates of Vienna regulars, both Jews and philo-Semitic gentiles, Seiyo wrote about Freyja:

I don’t think that arguing with a “Nazi” (term of convenience here) or a Progressive is useful. It’s time to accept that either kind is from a different planet, and ought to live among and talk to its own kind only. For the rest of us, it’s time to move forward and argue over what’s arguable. Hitler is not arguable. Holocausts (including that of the Slavs) are not arguable. Jews are arguable, but again, not with a Nazi.

Seiyo thus shunned all debate with a woman who had rejected the “Nazi” label applied on her (that thread was precisely about an article by Seiyo). Freyja’s long comments were an endeavor to specifically deconstruct Seiyo’s piece and to expose the blindness in the midst of vision of the bloggers at Gates of Vienna, who have been persistently unwilling to see the elephant in their room.

The following is a well-deserved scolding that Freyja administrated to Seiyo almost two months ago in the commentariat section of Gates of Vienna. No ellipsis added between unquoted paragraphs:


Freyja’s cats said…

Takuan Seiyo cuts some insightful strokes with his calligraphy pen. However, at the same time, he cleverly uses the techniques of Sun Tzu in his essay, to bury some uncomfortable facts and truths.

The sense of fairness in me compels me to come to the defense of Pat Buchanan and Sam Francis, by allowing the ghost of Kevin MacDonald, who is Takuan Seiyo’s nemesis, the opportunity to comment up the buried material regarding the neoconservatives—which is the wolf pack to which Takuan Seiyo belongs, he being neither Chinese nor Japanese in reality.

I would point out that the “red-diaper Jewish society improvers” to which Mr. Seiyo refers are the very clan to which the neoconservatives, themselves, belonged, before they started to notice the handwriting on the Western wall relative to the threat of Islam to Israel and the Jews, and walked over to the other end of the see-saw.

Seiyo encourages Westerners desirous of survival to throw Europe’s native sons Hitler and Charles Lindbergh and the “white nationalists” over the cliff, along with that half of the Eurosphere that fought valiantly, if brutally, against the Marxist-Leninism that was poisoning all of Western civilization, and Europe and Britain, in particular.

Seiyo writes, “Without understanding that Hitler was the worst thing that ever happened to the White race.” I would contend that this distinction should instead be conferred upon Karl Marx. But, to the Jewish peanut gallery this is an uncomfortable truth.

I would point out in response that it is the Jewish concept of Tikkun Olam, which is Hebrew for “repairing the world,” that brought us the “social justice” jackhammer that turned Europe and the West into a lesson in how to commit civilizational suicide. The ancient peoples of Europe were getting along nicely in defending their territory from Asia and Africa, except for perhaps the incursions by Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan. Yes, the warrior societies of Europe tended to leave the grass of Europe rather bloody from time-to-time, but, when looked at as a whole, they were fairly successful at holding down the continental fort.

In the warrior ethos of the peoples of Europe, there was no shame to be found in wiping out the odd tribe here and there, in a rather brutal fashion. That was how you survived. It was only when the Jews of Europe—who were a mercantile and money-changing people rather than an assemblage of proud, strong and physically-fit warriors of the home team—and their Anglo and American diasporas, foisted their squeamishness and guilt-trip upon the half of the West that [it] lost the war, and demanded that the losers be dragged in front of “human rights” tribunals; that the Marxist-Leninist, World Jewish Congress, ADL, SPLC and Tikkun Olam thugs were able to accelerate their race-replacement methods, the net benefit of which went to building Israel.

Seiyo states, “Western civilization can be balanced and healthy again when it has recovered all five of its cornerstones. They are the pantheist-pagan, Greek, Roman, Judaic and Christian.” To this, I would suggest that he and the reader revise this statement to read, “Greco-Roman, Celtic, Germanic, Baltic and Slavic.” For this is the rootstock from which Western civilization arose.

I would also encourage Seiyo to utilize the more appropriate term “heathen,” when addressing in English the Germanic people of Western civilization. It is time for Seiyo and his neoconservative brethren to drop the axes that they repeatedly sharpen for purposes of bludgeoning the Germans and other European nationalists. Hitler was the Charles Martel against the “invading” fifth-columnist Marxists.

It would be best for Western civilization for Jews to accept that Hitler was just one in a multi-millennia long succession of lion-hearted chiefs and kings of Europe. We freedom-loving children of indigenous Europe will no longer continue to throw our own blood over the cliff, in order to bow to the PC demands of the Middle Eastern tribe of usury and Tikkun Olam.

Latté island said…

Freyja’s cats, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Takuan Seiyo said…

@ Latte island: Well said. I often refer to ardent liberals as “Body Snatchers.” It means to convey the idea that coils in their brains are arranged differently, without necessarily a pejorative connotation. A discussion with a liberal is therefore pointless; you speak Basque, he speaks Urdu. It’s the same thing with Nazis and their various crypto, neo, and nonsocialist strains (hereinafter “Nazis’). There is no point in responding or arguing. My main concern is that we deal in this forum and others, e.g. AmRen, VFR, [both philo-Semitic sites – Chechar] with issues that hardly any strain on the putative Right even mentions, let alone discusses—but the Nazis do. It’s useful therefore to develop some criteria for where the demarcation line is. By the way, if anyone considers Freyja cats’s disquisition too much, in those circles Jared Taylor of AmRen is referred to as Shmuel Jerry Taylor. There has to be a separate corner somewhere for these folks too, all-White, Judenfrei as they wish. But mixing with them, even through discourse, is a bad case of such miscommunication that it’s akin to miscegenation.

Freyja’s cats said…

Mr. Seiyo:

I am not talking about anything “Judenfrei.” I am requesting that Jews melt down their axe against Germans and Germany and their supporters, and accept the need for all “white people” who want to work for the salvation of the West and our peoples, to participate in the project. Nobody out.

For Hitler to take out a bunch of Marxist-Leninist third columnists is branded by your choir as “pure evil.” But somehow firebombing the hell out of Dresden, and nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki isn’t?

Clearly, a review of the history of modern-day Israel shows that the Sons of Israel are not opposed to contemplating and engaging in “evil,” themselves, when that seems to be a good option for their survival, or otherwise in their national interest. Neither the Jews, collectively, nor any currently extant tribe or nation of Europe wears a halo. So give it a rest and knock off the anti-Germanism.

The reality is that there are a lot of folks across the world who are waking up to the fact that the Chosen People don’t have the halo around their heads that they once claimed they had, any more than the Germans did.

That old Communist Party-infiltrated organization known as the Federation of American Scientists has a lot of Jews on its Board of Sponsors, who used to decry the American development of strategic weapons in the 1970’s. It’s interesting, though, that after bid Laden and al-Qaeda hit New York City on 9/11, Israel and some American Jews started feeling really threatened by Islam and the surrounding Arabs, and a lot of the Jewish neoconservatives began to find it an imperative for the U.S. to attack Iraq and Iran. That seemed like a grand idea to many Christian Americans, and George Bush went along with taking out Saddam Hussein.

Saddam Hussein, though, brutal as he was, was a secular kinda guy, and didn’t let the Islamists annihilate the Iraqi Christians, as is being done now that Hussein is gone. Today, a goodly part of the planet is pissed off at Israel, and the current Arab uprising is threatening Israel’s former southern ally, and Coptic Christians are being put to the axe. People are starting to examine what has really gone on to get us to this point.

We Germans and German-Americans and other European patriots who lost World War II—including those of us in America whose German-American family members were sent abroad to kill our own German family in order to save the Jews—are today supposed to grovel in the dirt perpetually because our German brethren tried to take down the Marxist-Leninist Fifth Column in Europe, of which a goodly proportion of Jews were a part, which was working toward enslaving all of Europe under communism, and eventually the entire West.

Friends, the West is waking up. We are not only waking up to the threat of Islam amongst us, but we are also waking up to how this Fifth Column came to be embedded among us. Now that valuable research tools are available to use from the comfort of our own homes, we in the Anglosphere are now able to look underneath the AJC and WJC and ADL and SPLC and neoconservative propaganda, and look at the great expanse of European history in a different way. One doesn’t have to be a Hitler-worshipper, or shave his head, or tattoo swastikas all over his body and wear replicas of Nazi party clothing, to start realizing that something is very, very wrong in the Western civilization created by the Eurosphere.

It’s clear that the same infection that plagued Europe after Karl Marx wrote his Communist Manifesto didn’t die with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Marxism-Leninism has clearly infected the rest of the West, too.

With the Internet, the humble housewife can now study history, and determine the source of the infection.

I can see them, and their other aging 1960’s/70’s/80’s communist radical buddies, with my own eyes, indoctrinating the high school and college kids into Third-Worldist Marxism-Leninism, and agitating the local Muslim and Latino communities to “rise up” against the “racist white capitalists.” I’m in Chicago. And I can see the activists of Chicago’s Jewish Council on Urban Affairs standing right next to CAIR’s Ahmed Rehab, demanding approval of the construction of more mosque complexes in Illinois.

Europeans in the West who are waking up to all of this, are now asking ourselves why we should continue to blame our cousins, the Germans in Europe, for trying to eradicate the Fifth Column amongst them that was trying to enslave them under communism, when now the neoconservatives like David Horowitz, who used to be allies with the Black Panthers, are now trying to motivate the right wing of Europe and the European diaspora to eradicate the Fifth Column of Muslims that the Jews demanded that we let into our lands in the first place!

I am of ancestral Teutonic stock. I have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are Jewish. Many are good-hearted people who contribute good things to the community and don’t try to subvert the West and replace the children of Europe with Asians, Africans and Latin Americans. I harbor no desire to wipe those people off the face of the planet. But I’m wiser now than I used to be, and I have ascertained and ferreted out the history and source of political correctness and multi-culturalism/multi-racialism. I’m not going to fall for the Jewish demands that I wear a blindfold to the facts and that I succumb to their constant cries of “anti-Semitism” and “racism” and “Hitler and the Germans were evil and must perish!”

I am not going to throw my Europid cousins off the cliff, who are determined that Germans, Germany and “White people” should live and retain control over their European homelands, just because they don’t hold the “politically-correct” thoughts about World Wars I and II. I very respectfully request that Jews put down their axe against the German people, and work together with all of my Germanic and European cousins, to reverse the damage that has been caused to the West by the “political correctness” and “multi-culti” society that they have foisted upon it.

The motto for the salvation of the West must be: “All of our European brethren in; nobody out. Not even the White Nationalists.”

Mr. Takuan Seiyo relies upon Sun Tzu to develop his essay that is the subject of this thread. He leaves unmentioned in the essay any contribution that the Jewish teachings with which Jewish children are indoctrinated by the elders of their own Hebraic ethny, religion and culture.

Takuan Seiyo blames the present condition of Western civilization on an awful lot of stuff… except for teachings like the above-mentioned kol ha-olam negdeinu that could very well be motivating Jews of all stripes, including those of the deep Left, to keep engaging in behaviors to destroy European civilization and the Germanic peoples (and perhaps other nations, too); behaviors that, in cyclical fashion, tend to only cause Jews, eventually, more grief and generate more “anti-Semitism” down the line. The root problem of the West might not be indigenous Germans being indigenous Germans on German homeland soil. The root problem may include the songs and sayings that Jews in the West sing to their children when they are babies.

Seiyo wrote: “Perhaps the Dakotas too, if they come to their senses and curb that Scandinavian-Lutheran gene.” Another fine example of Jewish contempt for Germanic, European and Christian peoples. They just keep coming.

Friends, I would advise those persons with Jewish proclivities toward re-engineering European peoples, to ditch the habit.

When are you guys going to suck it up and accept the fact that it is your people’s capacity and demonstrated penchant for radicalizing your offspring, subverting your host society and enslaving and killing them off (by proxy, if strategically preferable) that, in cyclical fashion, comes back to kick you in the butt a few years down the line?

You guys have a choice:

1. You can continue to spit on the peoples of Europe. In that case, it would be wise of us of indigenous European stock to give you a one-way ticket to Israel, and slam the door behind you. You can cope with the Arab uprisings all around you on your own.

Or,

2. You can drop the club of blame and guilt that you repeatedly use to continue to pulverize Western society, and accept that it is normal for the indigenous people of Europe to have a desire to defend their homelands and protect their people against subversion, violent revolution, slavery and death.

We children of Europe are not going to pitch our own blood overboard, so that the Jews that purposely generated all of this immigration and race-replacement can take their places in the lifeboat.

[Plan A] Everybody in. Nobody out. That’s the deal.

[Plan B] Or you guys can go shack up in Israel, and fend for yourselves amidst the sea of Muslim Arabs.

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My comment:

Since arrogant Jews like Seiyo will never change, I’m afraid we will have to resort to Plan B…

New incarnation

This is entry #0 of the new incarnation of The West’s Darkest Hour. The old incarnation of this site is still visible:

http://caesartort.blogspot.com

Published in: on March 26, 2011 at 7:00 am  Comments Off on New incarnation  
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