Northwest Front’s “Nordicism” debate

 

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Skin colors according to von Luschan’s chromatic scale

 

These days, in the most revolutionary blogsite of the white nationalist movement, Harold Covington’s Northwest Front, some commenters—though not all!—have been practicing the most abject form of politically correctness: telling silly things about who is white in order not to offend Mediterranean sensibilities:

the myth that south Europeans are mixed with Arabs and black moors is just a myth and disproven with genetics. [Chechar’s note: genetics actually proves otherwise]

…how you [Covington] have betrayed and insulted our glorious “comrades” in the Golden Dawn, dusky-hued and coal-black-haired though they may be?

I’m surprised you got sucked into the whole “Who Is White” thing? The Joos have been trying to use that shit for decades to get us spinning our wheels in an utterly unproductive and pointless and endless debate of the how many angels can dance on the head of a pin variety. [Chechar’s note: this is not a Byzantine discussion but the true ABC of racial studies]

Since you evidently absolutely must play the Jewish game of “who is White?”, a question answerable only on an individual and not national or ethnic basis… [Chechar’s note: this revolutionary guy sounds like a deranged leftist: “whiteness is a social construct”]

The thing is, this “who is White?” question is insoluble because it is a matter of opinion not susceptible to factual quantification. [Chechar’s note: And it is also a matter of opinion to declare who’s a spic, a yellow, a redskin or a nigger; never trust your eyes! Forget the Felix von Kuschan scale of skin color above!]

The issue of Greece isn’t their “whiteness”. They are an Aryan subrace to be exact.

Exactly. One wonders why Peter Jackson did not hire modern Greeks for the hyper-Nordic characters of Lord of the Rings. What about hiring Turks for the coming films of the Hobbit? A saner Northwest Front commenter said, “Those among us who don’t have the ability to look at a picture of half-Turks and tell they’re not White weren’t ever going to amount to anything on behalf of the White race.”

The other idiots ignore that with current technology DNA tests have even revealed nigger genes among, say, quite a few of the Portuguese (see, e.g., here). No wonder why Portugal, after conquering large parts of America when they were genetically unpolluted, is now the poorest country in Western Europe; and due to their race-mixing through the millennia, the Greeks have an even lower IQ. See William Pierce’s “A 5% decline in average IQ would cause our civilization to collapse.”

This does not contradict the fact that today the worst white traitors, eunuchs and what I have been calling Body-snatched Pods in this blog are precisely the Aryans of the North. These grotesque creatures won’t be real men again until they undemonize Hitler and his NS movement.

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  1. It will be hard to clean the term Aryan, but so is surviving.

    White or “whiteness” says nothing.

    Today, after decades of “soul-polluting” through media, we even have “wiggers” among us. We are Aryans by blood and soil.

    http://ravnagaldr.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/white-or-aryan/

  2. It’s really a microcosm of society at large isn’t it? I know a swarthy Italian and he’s really pro-White! If you alienate Greeks they won’t vote for you or buy your stuff! I’m not Nordicist some of my best friends are black(-haired)!

    But it goes beyond that. How many WNs are willing to outright say that women, as a biological class, should not have the same legal powers as men? That homosexuals are mentally diseased and shouldn’t be allowed to run rampant? That most people simply aren’t intelligent enough to make important social or political decisions, and that society needs to restrict their behavior unless it wants to become a consumerist MTV hellhole? That in many cases good people should be stopped from reproducing because they have bad genes? That industrial society will always cause genetic devolution unless a comprehensive and mandatory eugenic system is in place? That the world’s resources are finite and bloody conflict over them is an existential fact, unless one faction already has uncontested martial supremacy? That religion and culture can uplift or destroy a society, and cannot be left a “personal choice” by a true revolutionary? That biologically and mentally superior groups of humans lived before us and will probably live after us, and we will never be their equals? That The Beatles mostly sucked?

    So it’s definitely an axiomatic thing. Modern Whites can’t accept that a human can be unequal to another – and thus superior or inferior – as an existential quality, and not as a result of some “choice” or sin. This does indeed seem like a problem greatly inflamed by Christian metaphysics, where equal essential being (the soul) is assumed, and only “free will” (faith or sin) distinguishes humans from one another in an ultimate sense.

    • Your last paragraph sounds like a quotable quote for this blog.

      If you alienate Greeks they won’t vote for you or buy your stuff!

      But that’s not the goal. The article that today I have linked twice, “The new racial classification (I)” contains this sentence: “This article has not been written to promote divisions or discriminations, or to heartlessly catalog the human being like cattle or as a mechanical entity, but to understand better the biodiversity we are carriers of, the necessity of preserving it and its meaning…”

      • I was kidding about that; what I meant was that the response to “Nordicism” among WNs is almost identical to the response to “racism” in society at large. Thus, WNs treat Mediterraneans like Republicans treat mestizos, they put emotional non-sequiturs up against biological facts, and they wind up trotting out “token Italians” because accusations of an organization being “Nordic” in WN are taken like accusations of an organization being “all white” in the mainstream. We’ve just fallen into the same mentality.

        I’m not even really in agreement with Covington; I don’t consider the Greeks to be basically Turks, I place them on the White side of the line, but I can recognize they’ve undergone some degree of mongrelization and that this would constitute genetic damage in an Aryan nation. Not all genetic damage is caused by mongrelization, and my guess is that all humans have genetic flaws of some type. Nonetheless some are much more damaged than others; in extreme cases this results in classification as a non-White or as a deformed/botched White, with exile in the former case and total sterilization or euthanization in the later case the most sensible solution. In less severe cases the damage should be handled by a comprehensive eugenic system, which would use racial purity as a major (but not the only) determinant of genetic quality.

        Psychologically though, I don’t think the “Nordicist” thing is being handled well, and the “transvaluation” thing comes back to light. I theorize that classical Nazism has three main thrusts which, combined, destroy the Humanist mentality. Those being: racism, or the destruction of the human species as a uniform monolith; animal/environmental protection, or the destruction of the human species as distinct from the rest of the natural world; and eugenics, or the destruction of the human species as static and presupposed. Each principle reinforced the others but the later two haven’t been emphasized much in the White Nationalist movement, which is a weakness in the long-term.

      • WNs treat Mediterraneans like Republicans treat mestizos

        Lol! Another quotable quote.

      • P.S.

        I don’t consider the Greeks to be basically Turks, I place them on the White side of the line…

        You meant on the Olive middle, not on the white side. Click on pic of the table at the top of the entry. You will see there more subtle white gradations of color, undistinguishable at first glance if you don’t click it.

        With the exception of Greeks like the girls in the image of my most recent entry about Greece (today’s entry), most modern Greeks fall in-between real whiteness and the colored.

      • I meant in terms of allowing them in the Aryan state and attempting to repair any genetic degradation versus banishing them from the state and telling them to form their own country. I don’t think, for instance, that we’d bother trying to “restore” the Aryan genotype of someone like Obama, we’d just tell him to go live in New Liberia or wherever. At some point a human drifts so far from our race we write them off as an alien politically, but I don’t think many Greeks are there yet.

        The problem is WNs still have an equality-based mindset. They think once you pass through the walls of the 4th Reich and get a stamp that says “White” on it you’re just like everyone else inside the walls. Basically they want America without niggers, like you said; universal suffrage, Freedom of Religion, gubmint stayin outta my business, no biological program once everybody in the country is “White enough” to gain entrance, utilitarian goals of making people “happy” and “free” at the expense of anything higher, etc.

        Pointing out an obvious fact like some “Whites” being purer than others (did you really expect the people who were occupied by the Moors or Turks for 300 years to be comparable to the Swedes?) throws them into fits. Not only does it retrigger all the anti-racist conditioning they thought they’d gotten rid of, but it makes them ask “where does it end?” At what point can we finally stop paying attention to each others genetic (and non-genetic) flaws?

        The answer is that it doesn’t end, that all life is struggle and hierarchy and that the Aryan race will never be perfected nor entirely freed from threats, but that’s not what they want to hear. Pierce made eugenics the core of his religious outlook, with nationalism as a means of protecting the eugenically-selecting society, but I see little concern for the subject among modern WNs. Can you imagine a racial state with a comprehensive eugenic policy which didn’t consider the reversal of mongrelization to be a major objective? That it wouldn’t make its population look more like Swedes and less like Sicilians, as time goes on? It’s hard to do so, which is why I believe “anti-Nordicism” in WN has, among other things, shut down much of the discussion on the subject.

  3. If present Greeks are not White anyway, they could just as well start raiding Albania, Turkey, Israel, Egypt, and even Lybia for women.


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