Second thoughts on SAID

In 2012 I wrote an article saying that the second book of Kevin MacDonald, Separation and its Discontents (SAID), was my favourite of his trilogy. I am afraid to say that, since then, I have changed my mind.

Definitely, the texts of the Spanish blogger Evropa Soberana changed my vision of the world. For example, in my 2012 review of SAID I quoted MacDonald: ‘Western societies, unlike prototypical Jewish cultures, do not have a primitive concern with racial purity’ (SAID, page 196).

As we can see in an essay by Soberana that I recently translated about Nordicism, racial pride dates from the Greeks. In The Fair Race’s Darkest Hour I translated other Soberana essays where it is noted that the Spartans, and Romans of the Old Republic, were as zealous of their race as the Jews: a story that MacDonald and others who publish in his webzine are unaware. We should also investigate more what William Pierce and Arthur Kemp wrote about the incredible zeal with which the Iberian Visigoths defended the purity of their blood (until the Christians convinced them to mix their blood with Mediterraneans in the 7th century).

Another pillar of MacDonald’s study that has now collapsed in my mind is his thesis expressed in a few words: ‘I propose that the Christian church in late antiquity was in its very essence the embodiment of a powerful anti-Semitic movement…’ (page 112). Here too the reading of Soberana’s essay on how the Judeo-Christians subverted Rome, especially in the 4th and 5th centuries—which I adapted as the masthead of this site—provides a perspective virtually opposite to what MacDonald says in this paragraph.

Although he is not a Christian, it is obvious that Professor MacDonald writes for a conservative audience with many Christians. The way Soberana and I see the world, on the other hand, is more in line with German National Socialism.

The link in my post on Wednesday about a discussion with Matt Heimbach is crucial to see why I believe that trying to mix American Christianity with the fourteen words produces a grotesque chimera. So grotesque, in fact, that I must link once again that discussion of the Orthodox Christian Heimbach with a commenter who believes in the religious movement known as Christian Identity (here).

For those who ignore what the acronyms of the subtitle of this site mean (‘WN is a farce, NS is the real thing’), let me say that I refer to Christian White Nationalism and non-Christian National Socialism.


  1. Yes: the discussion between Heimbach and the CI guy is a real treat! It reminds me Robert Morgan’s recent criticism of Greg Johnson (*): that Johnson’s plan for ethnic cleansing is based on a surreal scenario where it will be possible to do it peacefully, bloodlessly, and always with love and respect of the racial Other.

    American white nationalists are really unaware of the extent of which Judeo-Christianity has terminally screwed the Aryan mind (precisely what happened to the Visigoths in Hispania long ago).


    (*) Always, always remember that Johnson has delivered Xtian homilies in a church.

  2. Kevin McDonald is, as they say on 4chan, a CIAnigger trained to herd gullible individuals that somehow did not accept the whole narrative into another web. He and Jared Taylor [who is from Yale-a CIA hotbed] are gatekeepers. They are about as authentic as Alex Jones and like Jones they like to give people the idea that the whole (((group))) is not bad, only that bad individuals exist. Taylor in particular accepts Mongs as better than whites on account of their “IQ” which for those aware of the eternal cheat-culture of East Asia is no reason at all to believe these peace-promoters and their denouncements of violence.

    Life is a struggle and anyone who denies that is a liar.

    • @ Krist Krusher

      You really cannot compare KMD with Jared as to gatekeeping on the JQ: the former is Jew-wise and the latter isn’t.

    • It’s true that Asians score higher than whites, but IMHO, IQ studies are rather limited. There are faculties of intelligence that psychometrics fail to measure.

      I for one believe that whites are the most intelligent taking into account these unmeasurable faculties. It’s only their software (Xtian moral tenets) what has driven them into axiological madness.

      But a software problem can be fixed. Nietzsche’s ‘transvaluation’ phrase is the medicine. But nationalists are doing exactly the opposite. Yesterday for example Hunter Wallace extensively quoted… John Calvin!

      • Personally, I believe that whites and East Asians were intellectually equal during antiquity. But Christianity, and with it it’s culture of celibacy caused long term dysgenic damage to Aryans. The best example would be the Teutonic Knights-the best of their race, prohibited from reproducing.

      • @C.T. That’s right, because IQ usually accounts for a very narrow range of Intelligence, usually around calculation, mental speed processing, inductive and deductive capabilities. But there are such things as creative intelligence, emotional intelligence and so forth, which IQ tests do not measure for.

        The Asian races have a higher IQ when it comes to things like mathematics and certain things, but they do not have the creative abilities that Aryans do. They usually just imitate.

      • As to emotional intelligence and empathy, whites are light-years ahead of the Asian races. I see it through my concept of the eternal feminine.

    • @Krist Krusher, you put it well, Kevin McDonald and the likes, are indeed “gatekeepers”. They corner the market on everything to do with WN or anything behind Aryanism and are there to control and monitor the flow of information around these topics.

      There are many disinfo agents who also perpetuate the lie that “not all jews are bad” and they try to brainwash people to think that the bad jews are just influenced by religious extremism or that they are only a certain sect of jews. Ignoring the fact that the jew by blood is satanic and connected to a completely different intelligence than Non-Jews.

      A lot of people do not believe that there is a specific race who are the Devil’s Foot Soldiers. But what better way to show a wolf in sheep’s clothing, than to insist they are God’s Chosen.

      • I don’t think it’s wise to use Xtian terms such as Satanic, Devil, etc. Have read an article on this site, ‘Satan’?

      • @CT, I only refer to the jews as the devil’s children because I do believe they have a key Archon or “Devil” or whomever one wishes to refer to them, and that the figure created them. Some jews openly admit that their “God” is “Lucifer”. Yes I have seen the article.

  3. Almost forgot to include that ALL European groups before the glorified Rabbiolatry that is xtianity had clans/tribes. Even the Roman Republicans had tribes which continued to exist as an echo of themselves for voting reasons. In turn, the Germans had their Sippen, the Irish, Scots and Manx had Tanistry [entire society based on clanship–effectively lasted until 1700s], Norse had ættir, Slavs had their narodi. Even the now completely individualist Anglos once had Cynns and þeoda before the rise of the Heptarchy.

    • An aryan society should base its social foundations on ” Laws of Manu ” as neitzsche observed , not the laws of muhammad or jesus.

      No one in nationalist circles talks about ” Laws of Manu”, – Natural Law,The book of Manu describes ” Sin – as contamination of blood by miscegenation or rape “, the people who have indulged in miscegenation will be demoted to lowest caste and forced to work in menial labor as a punishment for adding impurities to the blood of Arya.

      Neitzsche – ” Close the Bible and open the Manu Smriti. “It has an affirmation of life, a triumphing agreeable sensation in life and that to draw up a lawbook such as Manu means to permit oneself to get the upper hand, to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living “.

      The reevaluation of morals will only happen when you adopt a new moral,legal and ethical foundation for a new society.

      One of the oldest sources of codified laws passed to aryans is done by Manu.

      • > No one in nationalist circles talks about “Laws of Manu”.

        Instead, (((Southern Nationalists))) quote Calvin.

  4. This is the condition of Europe today of 1500 years of christianization

    “What is it that we combat in Christianity? That it aims at destroying the strong, at breaking their spirit, at exploiting their moments of weariness and debility, at converting proud assurance into anxiety and conscience trouble; that it knows how to poison the noblest instincts and to infect them with disease until their strength, their will to power, turns inwards, against themselves — until the strong perish from excessive self contempt and self-immolation: that gruesome way of perishing”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche, The Will to Power

  5. MacDonald was not a racial thinker when he wrote his famous trilogy in the nineteen nineties. He focused on culturally-defined exclusive social groups of which the jews became paradigmatic. Evolutionary effects were secondary.

  6. “were as jealous of their race”

    Did you mean to write -zealous-?

    • Fixed.

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